Timeline for Could we improve the on-topic page line relating to 'shopping help — including product or music search — or buying/selling advice or recommendations'?
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| Mar 4, 2019 at 16:51 | answer | added | DomMod | timeline score: 2 | |
| Mar 3, 2019 at 10:32 | history | edited | Нет войне | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 2, 2018 at 16:08 | comment | added | Dom Mod | @ToddWilcox yes I ment the on topic page linked and quoted at the top. | |
| Jan 2, 2018 at 16:07 | comment | added | Todd Wilcox | @Dom You commented, "I personally think the FAQ states the real case better." Do you mean the help center? Where's the FAQ? I can't find it. | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 15:59 | comment | added | Нет войне | @Dom, 'Where can I buy X' is another one - I've edited my question including that and your other suggestion, thanks. Do you think the new wording still means that there are any off-topic "product searches" questions we're missing out? | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 15:57 | history | edited | Нет войне | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 31, 2017 at 15:42 | comment | added | Dom Mod | "where can I buy X" questions, "product searches", product reviews, ect. Most questions about shopping will be too option based here which is why it was worded that way. | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 15:35 | comment | added | Нет войне | @Dom If we separately said that "seeking recommendations for specific equipment" and "product valuations" were off-topic, what other specific types of questions that the community currently feels are off-topic do you think would be being left out compared to the current wording? | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 15:26 | comment | added | Dom Mod | the problem is the simplification cuts out things that are supposed to be there like I said in my first comment. | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 15:21 | comment | added | Нет войне | Likewise with 'recommendations' - I agree that recommending criteria isn't something we regard in the same way as recommending products. That's why simply talking about recommendations as being off-topic is unclear. | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 15:19 | comment | added | Нет войне | To say that "is a cheap cello acceptable for a beginner" isn't a shopping question is a good illustration. To you, that's not a shopping question. To another person, it would be a shopping question. That's why 'shopping question' or 'shopping help' isn't a very clear phrasing. | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 15:15 | comment | added | Нет войне | @Dom Sure... so... what I'm saying the issue is what language to use to make this as unambiguously clear as we practically can (while staying reasonably concise). | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 14:42 | comment | added | Dom Mod | Some of the questions listed aren't shopping questions(Like the question about moving the piano and is a cheap cello acceptable for a beginner) and the others are the general "what to look for" questions. The what to look for aren't recommending products just objective criteara to evaluate a product which I wouldn't lump together with a recommendation question as the approach answering is much different. | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 7:44 | comment | added | Нет войне | And it's not true that we don't do 'any kind of recommendations'. We DO make some kinds of recommendations - those relating to what to look for to achieve a given goal, given the "required function and setting in which the equipment will be used" (as per the close reason). | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 7:40 | comment | added | Нет войне | music.stackexchange.com/questions/43207/…, music.stackexchange.com/questions/51457/…, music.stackexchange.com/questions/23035/…, music.stackexchange.com/questions/52104/… ... that's a range of questions from various years - we seem to quite consistently allow many types of buying/selling advice. | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 7:38 | comment | added | Нет войне | Likewise, you've given valuation of specific equipment as examples of questions we don't allow, but there are still lots of buying/selling questions we do allow, e.g. music.stackexchange.com/questions/6061/…, music.stackexchange.com/questions/62314/…, music.stackexchange.com/questions/2611/…, music.stackexchange.com/questions/43687/… | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 7:29 | comment | added | Нет войне | For example, you've qualified 'product or music searches' by saying "What products do X?", but we do allow "What products do X?' when 'what' means 'what kinds of' - we just don't allow it when 'what' means 'what specific models or brands'. | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 7:27 | comment | added | Нет войне | @Dom I think the issue I'm trying to highlight is the level of ambiguity / specificity of the language. In your comment here, you've felt the need to further clarify what's intended by each of those phrases, so it seems that you to some extent agree with me that the current language on its own isn't all that clear. | |
| Dec 31, 2017 at 2:22 | comment | added | Dom Mod | I personally think the FAQ states the real case better. We don't do product or music searches (What products do X?) or give buying/selling advice (What is my guitar worth? How much should a(n) X type of guitar cost?) or any kind of recommendations (What X should I get?). The close reason just reflects a specific case of this. The only exception as you say is what to look for in equipment. To make it clearer, it might be better to appended the one exception to the off-topic section. | |
| Dec 30, 2017 at 9:22 | history | edited | Нет войне | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 30, 2017 at 9:17 | history | asked | Нет войне | CC BY-SA 3.0 |