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This question was migrated to Music Fans SE: In the Mass Ordinary, what are the words that should be set to a fugue?. The original title for the question was "What are the words for the Gloria fugue?"

Both titles are unfortunate and misleading, because the actual question was:

In setting the Mass Ordinary, what are the words that should be set in a fugue? "Cum Sancto Spiritu in gloria Dei Patris" or just "in gloria Dei Patris"?

The OP knows the words already - the words he quotes are the last words in the Gloria, and they're usually set off as a section by themselves which frequently features fugal writing, so the question he is asking is where in the Cum Sancto Spiritu section does the fugal texture start?

That's not unlike asking where in a sonata the development should start (allowing for the fact that formal divisions in a Mass are tied to the words), and thus, as far as I can tell, it's a question about compositional form that is well within our remit, and well outside the remit of Music Fans SE (and it has been drawing comments in Music Fans SE to that effect).

What was the rationale behind the migration?

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    I declined to migrate this as well -- for the reason you state plus we are not supposed to migrate to Beta sites (especially super new ones) without a pressing reason.
    – user28
    Commented Mar 29, 2015 at 14:16
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    Yeah, @MatthewRead, but other than misunderstanding (which is what I think happened here - people saw "What are the lyrics?" and acted by knee-jerk) , there isn't even a threadbare excuse, let alone a pressing reason. This falls smack-dab in the centre of our remit here. Right now, we seem to have got it back, but it is locked, reverted to original form, and shorn of comments and the one (snarky) answer it got. That's effectively limbo. Can we fix it?
    – user16935
    Commented Mar 29, 2015 at 16:27
  • I've flagged it on Music Fans for the migration to be reversed.
    – user28
    Commented Mar 29, 2015 at 17:38
  • Excellent. Thanks, Matthew.
    – user16935
    Commented Mar 29, 2015 at 18:08

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I saw the flags and to me they looked correct - that it was a lyrics question - so I migrated it.

This is basically down to a lack of experience on my part (and the flaggers) on fugues combined with slightly poor wording.

The good thing is that the community always has the opportunity to discuss, review and challenge, and very few things are irreversible. So I think you did the right thing pinging me in chat. Normally that would have been quickly resolved there and then once you had explained the situation, but I got a bit delayed due to events over the weekend, so escalating to meta is the next step.

All in all I think the process worked - and thanks for providing your knowledge and experience in an area which I and others are lacking, discussion, education and edits.

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    My pleasure, Rory. I didn't want to leave it hanging - that can distress new OPs - but we've got it back on track, and yup, the system worked. Thanks for hearing me out, and I can certainly understand what delayed you after our discussion... :D
    – user16935
    Commented Mar 29, 2015 at 19:42

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