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Sorry, but I'm not certain why:

  1. Why did Xenakis compose music that 'hurt' listeners? 'closed as off-topic'?

  2. Is Xenakis's dissonant music intended to express his personal sufferings and torments? 'closed as primarily opinion-based'?

  3. How does ignoring the math behind Xenakis's cacophonously dissonant music, affect your reaction to it? 'closed as primarily opinion-based' ?

  4. These involve music composition, history, and theory that are covered by the on-topic criteria:

    Music: Practice & Theory Stack Exchange is for musicians, students, and enthusiasts. If you have a question about... [...]

    practice or performance technique
    music theory, notation, history, or composition

    Is the hitch my writing? How can I improve?

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    Please actually make a case for the questions you want reopened and don't just list a bunch of questions that you think are similar and have that be the entire case for them being reopened or else it might end up like questions in the past music.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2797/…. Most of the questions have the reasons for the closure in the comments. The ones that don't the close reason is "primary option based" which is pretty self explanatory.
    – Dom Mod
    Commented Dec 22, 2017 at 4:45
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    Note that each question is compared with the guidelines in the help center, not with other questions. It may be that the open questions you are citing should also be closed, not that yours should be reopened.
    – Todd Wilcox
    Commented Dec 22, 2017 at 5:39
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    Canada - see @Todd's comment above. Your edit does not help in the slightest. It doesn't matter how many you add - they are irrelevant.
    – Doktor Mayhem Mod
    Commented Dec 22, 2017 at 16:42
  • @DrMayhem How don't they help though? The edit quotes criteria (of music composition, history) under which my question falls under. Also, is the apparent hitch truly my questions' scope, or more about me or a preference that I not ask questions here even if they meet the criteria?
    – user26407
    Commented Dec 22, 2017 at 16:46
  • It may be that all those other questions should be closed, maybe not, but trying to list a million of them does not help make yours on topic. The hitch is about the types of questions you are asking, and you don't help yourself by trying to point the finger at other ones. Please just ask questions that are on topic and in scope. It is that simple.
    – Doktor Mayhem Mod
    Commented Dec 22, 2017 at 16:48
  • @DrMayhem I'm not sure if the difference between my edit and previous post has been spotted? The only difference is 4, which is a quote. Please see music.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2863/….
    – user26407
    Commented Dec 22, 2017 at 16:49
  • Canada - I'm closing these posts now, as what you are doing is editing after every comment back. That makes this more suited to chat.
    – Doktor Mayhem Mod
    Commented Dec 22, 2017 at 16:53
  • chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/70687/…
    – Doktor Mayhem Mod
    Commented Dec 22, 2017 at 17:05
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    Your assertion in this question is totally wrong. None of those questions involve music history, music composition and certainly not music theory. The first two linked questions are clearly asking about Xenakis' personal emotional mindset and motivation, which is not a historical fact, related to the mechanics of composition, nor even in the same universe as music theory. The third question asks us why we feel something and then asks us why you feel something. Why we feel things is literally the most subjective thing possible. Why you feel things, only you can say - we can't.
    – Todd Wilcox
    Commented Dec 25, 2017 at 11:17
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    @ToddWilcox your last comment there actually gets to the heart of this issue - you've stated that these questions about motivation and listening technique don't count as music history, music composition or music theory. That might be obvious to some, less obvious to others, and others still might disagree with you, but if we can come to a consensus on the matter, then we can regard that as a useful clarification of the site's rules. That's how meta is supposed to work, rather than all this messy, emotional to-and-fro.
    – Нет войне
    Commented Dec 26, 2017 at 10:20
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    @ToddWilcox closed questions, as you yourself have stated, don't act as a good record of what the site's rules are. A meta question acts as a much better record (even though a clarification on the on-topic page in some cases might be even better).
    – Нет войне
    Commented Dec 26, 2017 at 11:12
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    @ToddWilcox as per my answer to music.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2867/…, for at least two of the questions, I don't see that they are 'blatantly' off topic, even though I do agree that they aren't likely to get good answers.
    – Нет войне
    Commented Dec 27, 2017 at 10:11
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    I tend to feel that consensus (even qualified consensus) in meta also counts as part of a site's 'rulebook', but if you think that the help center is the sole authority, that's all the more reason to keep refining and clarifying those wordings - which is something that there seems to be a reluctance to do.
    – Нет войне
    Commented Dec 27, 2017 at 10:15
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    @ToddWilcox downvotes don't represent a consensus on what the rules are. A question with 4 downvotes is almost certainly a bad question, but those downvotes in themselves don't provide clarity as to why. When it comes to providing clarity, I don't think quantity of communication helps, but rather, quality of communication - the ability to drill down into the logic of our rules and how they apply, and also refine them where necessary.
    – Нет войне
    Commented Dec 27, 2017 at 11:39
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    Specifically, I'd hoped for music.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2867/… to be reopened - it has been, and I've put an answer there.
    – Нет войне
    Commented Dec 27, 2017 at 11:52

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You have asked 5 questions on meta.Music. All of them are exactly the same:

Why did my question X get closed?

And in every case, there is a close reason listed.

When you argue that your post should remain open because another one is like it, we have repeatedly informed you that identifying another question "similar" to yours that is open does not mean yours should be open. Each question is compared against guidelines and scope on its own merits. A couple of yours may be on topic on Music Fans, but you'd need to browse the questions and scope there to check, otherwise you run the risk of having them closed there as well.

We have had multiple discussions with you about fully reading and understanding the [about] and [ask] pages. It still appears to me that you misunderstand fundamentally how the site works, and that you don't pay attention to close reasons and comments. The community keeps trying to help you, there are individuals who explain close reasons, and us mods have written a lot, but you keep doing the same things.

If you want to ask lots of questions that aren't a good fit here, it should indicate that maybe this is not the site for your sort of questions. So rather than continuing to post badly received questions and then follow up meta questions asking why they were closed, perhaps look for alternative sites on the Internet where they would fit.

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  • I'm sorry, but I'm still not sure if, and how, existing replies answer 5 overhead that I added now?
    – user26407
    Commented Dec 22, 2017 at 16:39
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    those additional 5 are also irrelevant, for the reasons already stated. Do not measure your questions against ones which you think may be similar that aren't closed yet. Measure against our site scope
    – Doktor Mayhem Mod
    Commented Dec 22, 2017 at 16:41
  • This appears continually repeated, but it doesn't appear to address music.meta.stackexchange.com/a/2872/26407.
    – user26407
    Commented Dec 25, 2017 at 16:24